How do you know Snowden couldn’t have accessed this stuff? What was the level of Snowden’s security level? If it was lower, does this exclude the possibility he could get these docs in an organization that is expanding as fast as the NSA was (and in fast expansion cracks always appear in security – look how “secure” the rush job Obamacare website is)? If it was higher then wouldn’t it have been easy?

Even suggestive observations, if they are to be presented as evidence, need support (actually they need much stronger support than direct evidence, because they are NOT direct). The strongest and only buttress I can find in the essay, other than the implied assertion that Snowden would have needed help to access NSA documents, is that Snowden worked for the CIA previously.

That is not at all unusual. The alphabet agencies trade people, people look for better pay and change jobs on their own. It is of course natural that an ex-CIA guy would look for another job in the field he has experience in. The NSA would be a logical pick.

Here’s an article of interest and a quote from it : http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/11/us/cia-warning-on-snowden-in-09-said-to-slip-through-the-cracks.html

“Just as Edward J. Snowden was preparing to leave Geneva and a job as a C.I.A. technician in 2009, his supervisor wrote a derogatory report in his personnel file, noting a distinct change in the young man’s behavior and work habits, as well as a troubling suspicion.

The C.I.A. suspected that Mr. Snowden was trying to break into classified computer files to which he was not authorized to have access, and decided to send him home, according to two senior American officials.

But the red flags went unheeded. Mr. Snowden left the C.I.A. to become a contractor for the National Security Agency, and four years later he leaked thousands of classified documents. The supervisor’s cautionary note and the C.I.A.’s suspicions apparently were not forwarded to the N.S.A. or its contractors, and surfaced only after federal investigators began scrutinizing Mr. Snowden’s record once the documents began spilling out, intelligence and law enforcement officials said.

“It slipped through the cracks,” one veteran law enforcement official said of the report. ”

He got a bad write-up, as he was in the process of leaving the CIA. This report would never have been written in the first place if the CIA were interested in sending a plant into the NSA. It would have been a completely pointless potential red flag to the NSA they were trying to infiltrate. This report NOT going to the NSA was an employment job reference error. If it had been forwarded, which it never was, the NSA might not have hired him.

It doesn’t make sense, and if we try to say “they didn’t send the report because they wanted to make sure Snowden got in” then why was the report written at all, and if writing it was a slip, why was it not expunged? This isn’t wheels within wheels – its just government sloppiness (the report not being forwarded to the NSA I mean).

But the CIA would NOT be sloppy if they were pulling off a covert operation on this scale – they would not have allowed this report at all, I am sure.

However it does bring up another idea – Snowden was indeed discontent… with what he was finding out in the CIA and later in the NSA about what this administration is up to.

Look, what did he choose for a career? Uncle Sam security. What kind of people choose this? Three mainly – functionaries, power freaks, and patriots. The first group just wants the government benefits. They’ll work anywhere in the gov that will have them. The third group is fixed on using their employment in the gov to reach high levels of power.

Snowden does not at all strike me as one of these two. A functionary would NEVER EVER bite the hand that feeds him, and Snowden seems to me anything BUT power mad, and if he were, turning on his own organization isn’t going to score him any power points – he surely knew enough to know he would end up pretty much where he is right now, in terms of this government ever giving him power over anything ever again.

But he DOES look and feel like a patriot. I think he joined the CIA thinking this was the real stuff, this was where he could patriotically help his country. Only he wasn’t dumb enough, or ideologically frozen in his mind. He saw more and more ugliness that belied his initial faith in the goodness of Uncle Sam. He started feeling outrage, and started poking into a few files. He saw the CIA was too dirty, and decided to leave and try out the NSA. The boss got wind of his discontent (Snowden may have grumbled) AND noted indications Snowden was doing a little snooping. He wrote a security warning on him, but Snowden was on the way out, the boss was sloppy, and it never went to his new employers.

When Snowden started at the NSA, he expected something better than the CIA, and discovered quickly that it was just as bad and that the spying was huge and being done on the citizens. HE was not deeply aware of this at the CIA BECAUSE these two organizations are rivals, and don’t exactly share with each other’s employees the current nature and methodology of their operations.

Snowden’s recognition of evil in the CIA, and his growing outrage, was supplemented heavily when he saw the same or worse at the NSA. He must have thought “OMG they’re ALL full of crap. I went to work to help my country, and these groups are ripping into everything our country stands for, starting with the right to privacy”.

As a patriot, he decided enough is enough, and the rest is history. Why is this story less likely than your scenario?

Personally I think you have for once, slipped in your own arena. your evidence is 1) Snowden used to work for the CIA, and 2) Snowden MAY have had a hard time accessing docs at the NSA without help. The second point is very weak on a few levels, and another of these is… HOW would the CIA help Snowden get documents from the NSA? What could they do exactly? I’m trying to think of something, but I’m drawing a blank. And I think you are not considering this – you don’t suggest how the CIA could help Snowden, who is now in a completely separate organization the CIA doesn’t have any real control over (if they did, I would imagine they wouldn’t need Snowden to go in and do this.)

You are so used to uncovering real wheels within wheels (brilliantly 95% of the time – I am an ardent fan) you couldn’t help yourself when you thought of a new POSSIBLE wrinkle in the Snowden case, and went with it. I think this is too much a leap. I think it is an honest mistake, but it bothers me a bit, because if he is wrong, you are labeling Snowden the wrong way at the very time Snowden needs help from the only people who will help him – activists.

Government pundits have been hinting that Snowden worked for the Russians all along (and the “indicators” of this is that Russia took him in), and you are hinting that Snowden was secretly working for the CIA.

I don”t agree with either. I hope this isn’t just my hope that there is SOME courage and virtue left in SOMEone in this country coloring my objectivity, but I don’t think so. I think Snowden’s the real deal, a true patriot. Both my guts and my reasoning point this way. I hope you might reconsider this, or change direction. It is more than enough that Snowden is now a wanted man with less than a year’s grace before Russia has said they won’t protect him anymore. It is enough that the media and the White House is doing all they can to discredit him, and many deluded people in the US now hate him.

“Aaron Stanton: How about the individual?

Michael Oswald: There is no such thing. The individual is dead.”

Without knowing it these two characters hit the nail on the head (unless they do know it) that the people in a nation are treated by presumption and assumption to be a dead thing in the legal world being merely the color of law, as dead, incompetent, abandoned, an imbecile, a ward of the state without a real voice.

There are only two jurisdictions, the Crown, Legal Dead Fiction, corporate courts. And…

The other is the Lawful Live Jurisdiction of the Witness, the flesh and blood sentient being that the Dead Legal Fiction Courts are so afraid of – when you go to court you better acquiesce to being the dead legal name fiction or they find you in contempt of court or order a psych eval if you persist in declaring that you are not the name the State create through fraud by Certificating and Registering your Birth Certificate.

The Birth Certificate is the prima facie evidence the State has and continues to commit fraud everyday getting you to consent to being a dead legal name.

I would love it if Jon Rappoport would investigate and expose this monumental fraud perpetrated upon us since the beginning of the Cestui Que Vie Act of 1666.

The monumental evidence of all of the Acts passed to bring Admiralty Law/Legal Piracy ONTO THE LAND can be found on the Ucadia Blog. And Kate of Gaia Writings.

Go get’em Jon.

Precisely correct in my opinion. It’s about PERCEPTION MANAGEMENT. We used to call this “reality” but reality isn’t what it used to be.