Comments on: A Clockwork Orange, Eden, guilt, sin, mind control https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2014/03/26/a-clockwork-orange-eden-guilt-sin-mind-control/ NoMoreFakeNews.com Sun, 30 Mar 2014 19:12:16 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.2.10 By: Rev. Dragon's Eye https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2014/03/26/a-clockwork-orange-eden-guilt-sin-mind-control/#comment-8172 Sun, 30 Mar 2014 19:12:16 +0000 http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=5953#comment-8172 That is YOUR belief. I have mine!

The Universe is far more than just a huge collection of particles inundated in the constant flow of energies and vibrations (that which keeps things in motion).

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The reason I stated, “coming to know God is a personal responsibility…”, is to state that it IS up to the individual to engage in his/her OWN search for answers on Life. – So, please do not confuse me with a “religious fundamentalist”. – I have divorced ALL of the “other mens’ churches” – in favor of my own personal journey. – THAT is freedom.

So what was there to argue about in the first place?

Plus,

Even though we are from this Universe, materially (read: physically), we are still unique to one another, and we still each have our unique set of experiences. – So this premise of there not being possible “original thought” is unfounded and readily dis-proven on its face. I think you will find that the further we investigate things like Quantum Theory, Entanglement Theory, and related, we will find that our idea of a “singularity” of everything is far more complex than we give credit. – It leaves plenty of room for the uncountable variations and “unique expressions” that exist or are even possible.

I do not subscribe to the “all is one” thinking, because it denies the existence of individuality, and denies the individual his/her own unique contribution(s) to society.

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By: Michael Burns https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2014/03/26/a-clockwork-orange-eden-guilt-sin-mind-control/#comment-8171 Sun, 30 Mar 2014 18:04:46 +0000 http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=5953#comment-8171 “coming to know God” is a personal responsibility…” -Rev Dragon Eye

Tearing that delusion to pieces is one of the first roads to freedom of the mind.
Coming to know God, is not a responsibility, anymore than believing in Santa Claus is… but I would say if freedom is your search, your need and desire, if you wish to truly become the individual, then breaking through the propoganda of the cult of religions is the first battle to gain an original thought. Even the ‘religion of one’.
Finding divine presence and thought implies your are separate from the Universe. And lost if you don’t find it? Well your are not, this is not God’s Universe, this is not a divine place. The concept of God is the answer used to all those conundrums of which you have no answer. You are part of it (universe) not separate, wither you believe in God or not. You are a natural part of a great thing.

Michael

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By: Michael Burns https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2014/03/26/a-clockwork-orange-eden-guilt-sin-mind-control/#comment-8170 Sun, 30 Mar 2014 17:33:37 +0000 http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=5953#comment-8170 […]…believing in God is the first brainwashing campaign on you. You will never understand the world because you look at it through those God-tinted lenses all the time. It’s a type of software in your head; if you will excuse the computer analogy. That one constantly interprets reality through. The belief of God is not inherent in us. Maybe the following quote will shed some light into your mind.

And it refers to the idea of God as well.

“We have to create culture, don’t watch TV, don’t read magazines, don’t even listen to NPR. Create your own roadshow. The nexus of space and time where you are now is the most immediate sector of your universe, and if you’re worrying about Michael Jackson or Bill Clinton or somebody else, then you are disempowered, you’re giving it all away to icons, icons which are maintained by an electronic media so that you want to dress like X or have lips like Y. This is shit-brained, this kind of thinking. That is all cultural diversion, and what is real is you and your friends and your associations, your highs, your orgasms, your hopes, your plans, your fears. And we are told ‘no’, we’re unimportant, we’re peripheral. ‘Get a degree, get a job, get a this, get a that.’ And then you’re a player, you don’t want to even play in that game. You want to reclaim your mind and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers who want to turn you into a half-baked moron consuming all this trash that’s being manufactured out of the bones of a dying world.” – Terence McKenna

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By: Rev. Dragon's Eye https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2014/03/26/a-clockwork-orange-eden-guilt-sin-mind-control/#comment-8169 Fri, 28 Mar 2014 17:39:55 +0000 http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=5953#comment-8169 I was referring to ALL established churches, not just the Vatican, and their beginnings.

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By: Rev. Dragon's Eye https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2014/03/26/a-clockwork-orange-eden-guilt-sin-mind-control/#comment-8168 Fri, 28 Mar 2014 17:38:57 +0000 http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=5953#comment-8168 For one,

“coming to know God” is a personal responsibility, not anyone else’s. When we find “our groove”, if you will, we are most likely to find the liberating experience of the Divine presence on our own. It is pretty difficult to “find God” when your mind is being constantly bombarded with religious dictum, from another man’s religion. Some of us fair better in our pursuits on our own.

Two,

“Salvation”? – Salvation from who or what? Ourselves? Are we not expected to be able to take care of ourselves first, before we undertake being able to take care of others? And WHO, on this Earth speaks truly with the authority of God? Anyone can say he/she “speaks by authority of God”, but does that make he/her truthful?

Three,

Unbelief is a personal choice. It should not be considered worthy of punishment, because a “belief” that is pressured or forced, is not really a belief in anything more than a fear-based compliance.

Four,

The “Church” was more of a system of political control than anything spiritual; It was more concerned about controlling its followers through “doctrine” than allowing its followers to explore spirituality for themselves.

Finally,

How do we come to Love anything that we are also expected to abjectly fear??? – Last time I remembered, “fear” does not usually beget Love; Usually more hatred, loathing, and animosity. The “church” has been effective in cultivating fear in its followers, so that they even feared “thinking outside of the box”. Yet, the expect you to unceasingly Love them and the image of the God they present! – I do not follow this tenuous logic.

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The “Serpent” is ancient symbol. It symbolized not only the flowing spirit, but also the tides of Nature, the cycles of everything – including the ebb and flow of energies, and the endlessness of those cycles.

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By: Rev. Dragon's Eye https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2014/03/26/a-clockwork-orange-eden-guilt-sin-mind-control/#comment-8167 Fri, 28 Mar 2014 17:22:33 +0000 http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=5953#comment-8167 No problem.

I did not see where you separated the subject matters in your post. Therefore, I missed it.

I hope to have some more interesting info up-coming.

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By: Surveilled Slavery, The Battle For Freedom Is Here. – Digital Wake Up https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2014/03/26/a-clockwork-orange-eden-guilt-sin-mind-control/#comment-8166 Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:36:28 +0000 http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=5953#comment-8166 […] http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/03/26/a-clockwork-orange-eden-guilt-sin-mind-control/ […]

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By: visitor https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2014/03/26/a-clockwork-orange-eden-guilt-sin-mind-control/#comment-8165 Fri, 28 Mar 2014 05:58:25 +0000 http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=5953#comment-8165 Yes , everyone over that hill , had once been an Adam and Eve, that was so good all that you said, Jon. But they believed the lie. Our minds they say are only used a 10th of what they could be. It is a serious thing to just believe what you are told, and not trust what is wholesome and good but becoming as fools thinking that you are limited and need a ruler over you. I once read of a boy who lived in a chicken coop with the chickens and soon thought and felt like a chicken, but even then if he had been freed and told he wasnt, and given the chance to live without brainwashing and in a captive,state, you would see a human made in the image of God.

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By: visitor https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2014/03/26/a-clockwork-orange-eden-guilt-sin-mind-control/#comment-8164 Fri, 28 Mar 2014 05:38:12 +0000 http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=5953#comment-8164 I am not referring to the vatican , Catholic , being sent to a Catholic school as a child until the 5th grade . I remember the teaching was only catholics go to heaven. I have found my way far from that teaching and it lead me into other religions to explore and some new age years ago. we do not have to be a god or god especially if you believe him to be the creator. But being brought back to where we came from our natural estate as was given, is the belief that is held, and that God loves us and wants nothing but the best and all the creativity we have in us to use and are not left as orphans , but He will come to us, so there for we are in this way but scared little lambs sometimes, and this is possible for we are often, so it is a nice thing to know there is a power on our side. this has nothing to do with the junk the NWO is feeding us and trying to mix us up about, to each his own , but having our own brains to use and figure out things is a must and a right.

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By: visitor https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2014/03/26/a-clockwork-orange-eden-guilt-sin-mind-control/#comment-8163 Fri, 28 Mar 2014 05:21:50 +0000 http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=5953#comment-8163 I have grasped all that you have said, but would you mean about the churchs, as you said, to behave and believe in somehing less than they really are. The basis for that is, if they are believing as the New testement has said, that a person is still in there Unbelief, or sins one of the same somewhat which i take to mean that until redemption , needing to be redeemed which would mean when we are brought back to Adom and Eve’s first state, but when we believe the lie that we are nothing and it is held back from us by God, which it never was. God gave freely to us, and gave the earth and everything in it, he held back nothing , saying be prosperous and in good health even as your soul prospers . It is hard to believe a serpant spoke to her , but never the less doubt came into there minds , whether they can have maybe all this by rights from the creator or are they to trust this to others, maybe be coming aware there would be others , hence should they develop or cultivate another way of thinking like the collectives. We have this vast imaginative ability we all have to create and grow exchanging ideas and learning from each other there is no stopping us, though they try to feed us the lie. And i beleve God wants that for us, they lie about God also as we see.

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