Comments on: California-school mind control: grades for “Gratitude” https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2015/01/30/california-school-mind-control-grades-for-gratitude/ NoMoreFakeNews.com Fri, 13 Feb 2015 18:45:33 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.2.10 By: PJ London https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2015/01/30/california-school-mind-control-grades-for-gratitude/#comment-13795 Fri, 13 Feb 2015 18:45:33 +0000 https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=9652#comment-13795 Sorry, I will put the Sarc font on next time.

]]> By: MrB https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2015/01/30/california-school-mind-control-grades-for-gratitude/#comment-13794 Fri, 13 Feb 2015 14:25:02 +0000 https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=9652#comment-13794 I’ll be honest that I had to read up on that notion before offering a reply. The answer is that we use elements of the Trivium system of critical thinking, but don’t explicitly use the term any more. Surprisingly, Common Core, especially within English Language Arts, focuses very much on direct identification of textual evidence and penalizes information brought in from outside a given text. So if the question asks, “What does Tom Sawyer feel when…on page 94…” and you offer information on page 99, you lose points, since the focus on the question was on a specific segment and moment.

I can only speculate as to why the system has been mostly abandoned; economics no doubt plays a large role, since many within the United States wonder (rightly) what they can do for money with a philosophy, history, political science degree, etc. Americans want degrees that they believe can guarantee them a career and a solid salary, so anything that isn’t technical or professional is automatically looked down upon.

The other reason would involve the larger culture wars. Large segments of the U.S. do not want their beliefs under the scrutiny that Trivium would provide (on both the Left and Right, but most often amongst religious conservatives of various denominations). Since we remain a republic, their views are reflected in our policy and government.

This very article is symptomatic of those culture wars, with the writer attacking the idea of our state schools grading students on behavior other than academics.

]]> By: MrB https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2015/01/30/california-school-mind-control-grades-for-gratitude/#comment-13793 Fri, 13 Feb 2015 14:18:00 +0000 https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=9652#comment-13793 Ad hominem attacks mean that you go after the person who said them (shooting the messenger) rather than the argument itself. If the argument is weak, demonstrate that. But the original post make remarks about me personally rather than my argument. That’s not a rebuttal.

]]> By: PJ London https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2015/01/30/california-school-mind-control-grades-for-gratitude/#comment-13792 Thu, 12 Feb 2015 10:36:45 +0000 https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=9652#comment-13792 No, it just means that it is so weak that it cannot stand on its own.
( I don’t actually see where you attacked a man)

]]> By: Patriotism ForAll https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2015/01/30/california-school-mind-control-grades-for-gratitude/#comment-13791 Wed, 11 Feb 2015 23:49:20 +0000 https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=9652#comment-13791 Where are the parent protests? That is what I have been asking for 10 years. In fact, where have you all been. 10 years ago I authored the Wikipedia article on Character Education. It has stood with no content changes all of this time. It destroys the concept that character education programs in public schools are effective – no less that there is any evidence that they are needed in the first place.

]]> By: Michael Burns https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2015/01/30/california-school-mind-control-grades-for-gratitude/#comment-13790 Wed, 11 Feb 2015 20:52:45 +0000 https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=9652#comment-13790 @MrB
Sorry I got in this late…although better late than never.
Without prejudice B…Why do you not teach the Trivium system of critical thinking? It is still practiced within ivy league education.
Where you taught using the Trivium system of critical thinking?…and lastly why has a fully rounded Baccalaureate degree which included the seven liberal arts been abandoned for a watered down specialized technical certificate in a majority of public Universities?

]]> By: MrB https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2015/01/30/california-school-mind-control-grades-for-gratitude/#comment-13789 Wed, 04 Feb 2015 16:30:28 +0000 https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=9652#comment-13789 If a teacher does hate your kid, wouldn’t you rather force them to justify a number, or a grade, rather than having them just say they aren’t putting in enough effort, or are lazy, or are undisciplined? And doesn’t such a system open the possibility for you to appeal to the admin or other teachers, who can then weigh in? And if you really think your teacher hates your kid, doesn’t this system make that more apparent much faster, and allow you to find a better school?

]]> By: MrB https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2015/01/30/california-school-mind-control-grades-for-gratitude/#comment-13788 Wed, 04 Feb 2015 16:27:50 +0000 https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=9652#comment-13788 Attacking the man does not mean my argument is wrong.

]]> By: laurabruno https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2015/01/30/california-school-mind-control-grades-for-gratitude/#comment-13787 Wed, 04 Feb 2015 15:14:24 +0000 https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=9652#comment-13787 I love your last line! Classic. 🙂

]]> By: From QuĂ©bec https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2015/01/30/california-school-mind-control-grades-for-gratitude/#comment-13786 Mon, 02 Feb 2015 18:07:53 +0000 https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=9652#comment-13786 “the school board spent 4500.00 on a thermal radiation count to conclude “the students are not being cooked”.

Incredible!

“I pulled my son out of there.”

Bravo!

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