Comments on: My talk last night in Newport Beach https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2015/08/13/my-talk-last-night-in-newport-beach-2/ NoMoreFakeNews.com Sun, 23 Aug 2015 02:05:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.2.10 By: David Marino https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2015/08/13/my-talk-last-night-in-newport-beach-2/#comment-17150 Sun, 23 Aug 2015 02:05:41 +0000 https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=11919#comment-17150 If I were in the audience even though I may have heard everything Jon was about to say before I would enjoy witnessing Jon say it. I have only seen Jon on Youtube: the calm assertiveness when dealing with controversial questions, the flow of ideas, the way he backs up arguments. Remember the phrase; “I want be like Mike”, referring to Michael Jordan. When it comes to talking with the brainwashed or half-brainwashed person or group I want to be like Jon.

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By: LunaReport https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2015/08/13/my-talk-last-night-in-newport-beach-2/#comment-17149 Mon, 17 Aug 2015 15:33:33 +0000 https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=11919#comment-17149 ‘as artists of reality’ … great 🙂

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By: Ozzie Thinker https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2015/08/13/my-talk-last-night-in-newport-beach-2/#comment-17148 Mon, 17 Aug 2015 01:20:10 +0000 https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=11919#comment-17148 Copied to word. Will try and add some of it to a future post on Ozzie Thinker.

Better you weren’t the guinea pig, but good work anyway.

Best
OT

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By: jim keiser https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2015/08/13/my-talk-last-night-in-newport-beach-2/#comment-17147 Sun, 16 Aug 2015 14:59:59 +0000 https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=11919#comment-17147 thanks, share it anywhere!

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By: Theodore https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2015/08/13/my-talk-last-night-in-newport-beach-2/#comment-17146 Sun, 16 Aug 2015 14:54:36 +0000 https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=11919#comment-17146 Wow. What a story. Thank you for sharing it so that others may take heed. You survived the gauntlet. To imagine how many tens of thousands out there — just in the US and Canada alone — have been put through similar coercion experiences in the last 50 years.

BigHarma psych drugs from the 1970s: “…he blasted me with heavy doses of thorazine, haldol, depakote, ritalin, tofrinol, valium and possibly others for 2 1/2 months in his asylum…”

https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2015/07/04/the-cia-long-range-planning-for-a-drugged-and-debilitated-society/

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By: jim keiser https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2015/08/13/my-talk-last-night-in-newport-beach-2/#comment-17145 Sun, 16 Aug 2015 14:24:38 +0000 https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=11919#comment-17145 That was Zen, this is meow (1 story, spread wherever it may jar realities)-
I was originally “diagnosed” about 40+ years ago at age 20 with “schizophrenia”, near the inception of yet another DSM (Diagnostic & Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders), by a deceptive, “snake oil” peddling psychiatrist who (never the less) told my family he thought my “euphoria”, perceptual distortions, insomnia and other mental/emotional experiences requiring his “care” resulted from taking LSD, which I had and discontinued about 2 years before (I also probably had many other toxic drugs acting on my body, or in withdrawal from, due to an operation I had within 2 months of his getting his “meat hooks” in me, including codine, demerol, morphine, opium laced hashish, marijuana …). _________

Instead of doing what a rational and ethical physician would have done- recommend detox, nutritional changes, exercise programs, rest, and possibly a short term mild sedative to help with insomnia and other symptoms- he blasted me with heavy doses of thorazine, haldol, depakote, ritalin, tofrinol, valium and possibly others for 2 1/2 months in his asylum, and beyond for approx. 2 more years. The first dose was with a veterinarian sized syringe for large animals, at least several days before I even met the “man” (psychiatrist)- I was neither violent, suicidal, or threatening to self and/or others, and walked in and signed in to his “hospital” voluntarily (deception, coercion…). ————–

One day he boastfully stated he was giving me (under absolute coercion, including threat of ECT-Electro Convulsive “Therapy”,1st concocted for humans by a psychiatrist watching it done on pigs before slaughter, and more permanent internment in a State “hospital”) enough thorazine to knock a horse out in the middle of the track! (In front of a group of student nurses about my age, some I recognized from my fairly small town- another indicator of his high level of “medical” ethics).______________________

This “doctor” also had supportive encouragement from a cousin of mine who hardly knew me, a prominent psychiatrist from UCLA, U of Arizona etc, who reportedly did research for US military and/or Dept of Psychological Warfare interests. My “doctor” cousin became a wealthy man with his psychiatric career and probable taxpayer money, defrauding unwitting, vulnerable people like myself and family out of their lives, health and futures- as he went from a fairly poor mid-western, small town backround to a residence in Belaire, CA, a neighbor of Johnny Carson. _______________________________________________

The ‘treatment’ disrupted and limited me greatly for most of the next 10 years of my early adult life, before I found a detox program and some other things that helped me recover emotionally, mentally, physically,perceptually, and in rehabbing my energy-physical and mental. ________________________

This highly credentialed, psychiatrist/institution “Medical Director”, with a long practitioner and academic career who came with the “highest recommendations”, confessed to me on our last meeting (over 2 years after I became his “patient”) that he really never had any idea about what really happened to me that wound me up in his ‘care’, what the ‘illness’ was(and if that is what it was) or how to ‘treat’ it, and told me if anyone ever did it would be myself- I believe he wanted to clear his conscience after practicing the psychiatry for many years, and found me useful as a “confessional”, as well as a has been “cash cow”. I now realize he was also confessing the fraudulent, spurious, and deceptive nature of his psychiatry (never acknowledging the harms).___________________________________

This confession came AFTER the collection of thousands of dollars from insurance and out of my parents pockets, the destruction of my body, vitality and abilities, and the deception of myself-family and others- over 2 years from the date he first ‘diagnosed’ and practiced his trade on me. ____________________

I’ve had a few ‘spills’ in more recent years too, I think probably “after shocks” or protracted withdrawal from those years (psychiatry calls them “relapses” or emerging new “mental ills”), but have pulled myself through relatively quickly. I attribute recent years recovery largely to The Road Back program for drug withdrawal/detox along with physical exersize and nutritional changes/supplements, and prior to that to Dianetics/Scientology courses/auditing/and detox program, and to my own greater awareness and rejection of this psychiatry “usual”._______________________________________________________________

Although the psychiatrist knew of my LSD and (I assume) other recent medical history, his “diagnosis” concluded I was “mentally ill”, not suffering from the known effects/toxicity/symptoms of the drugs I had taken. Of course the good doctor would have been out of a “healing income” had he not arrived at a “psychiatric diagnosis” (and my life following his “treatment” may have been a lot more healthful, successful and fulfilled)._____________________________________

“…The criticisms of the therapeutic efficacy of force and coercion in mental health treatment are significant. While some people identify forced treatment as being helpful to them during times of crisis, many feel that their experiences of forced treatment have been dehumanizing, deeply traumatic, and ultimately harmful, leading to further difficulties… The mechanics of force are inherently violent, so much so that the UN Special Rapporteur on Torture has identified common practices in forced treatment – such as restraints – to be torture.”-Faith Rhyne (Beyond Meds) I agree, and this has certainly been my experience with psychiatry.- Jim Keiser, pg admin, Mental health/psychiatric watchdog & reform activity- https://www.facebook.com/jpkeis

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By: robinsoncaruso1 https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2015/08/13/my-talk-last-night-in-newport-beach-2/#comment-17144 Sun, 16 Aug 2015 05:49:58 +0000 https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=11919#comment-17144 Thank you Jon, keep up the truth, shine your lite on the cockroaches sir.

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By: From Québec https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2015/08/13/my-talk-last-night-in-newport-beach-2/#comment-17143 Sat, 15 Aug 2015 16:34:46 +0000 https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=11919#comment-17143 “Billy and I discovered neither of us has a cell phone, so we’re starting a new revolution along that line. The Dead Cell Phone Society.”

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Great! I do not have a cell phone either and I don’t want one. When I look at all these trendy zombies enslaved with their cell phone that keep ringing all the time, I feel so sorry for them. On top of being irradiated 24/7, they are losing their freedom. I have a plugged in wall phone, with no answering machine, no call waiting and no gadget showing the phone number of the caller.

If you phone me when I am on the phone, you will get a busy signal. If you phone me when I am not at home, I have no way to know that you have phoned. I figure that if it was an important phone call, they will phone back… if it wasn’t… who cares?

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By: Tracy https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2015/08/13/my-talk-last-night-in-newport-beach-2/#comment-17142 Fri, 14 Aug 2015 10:47:42 +0000 https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=11919#comment-17142 Those shrinks are still at it are they?

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By: Ozzie Thinker https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2015/08/13/my-talk-last-night-in-newport-beach-2/#comment-17141 Fri, 14 Aug 2015 07:37:25 +0000 https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/?p=11919#comment-17141 Jon, I hear you in stereo.

Look at the cronyism on your blog, but you’re one of the genuine ones, so that’s understandable.

The catalyst is any public speaker, broadcaster, writer faces is a combination of foresight over prejudice, realism over promotion and wisdom over propaganda.

An intrinsic part of this self-assessment is being aware of the potential of audience voices (i.e. maybe they know something you don’t or could say something you couldn’t. Can I be legitimately criticised and grow from the experience without losing face as an “icon”?) but, more than that, where’s the tune?

Thus the mainstream and alternative mainstream fluff-ers attempt to predict and present the tune the audience likes to dance to.

Personally, I decided the only way not to compromise the truth is to be a truth-dictator. For me truth is not subject to “views” or “opinions”, but sacrosanct. As you know, rarely do I find fault with your message, Jon.

Best
OT

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