If a trail of logic makes sense, it likely is good logic. If it does not, which often the case with those who have ill intentions, then the logic will not appeal to most.

the other purpose of logic is to make sure our own logic is well thought out and sound so that we may build on it from that point. Being able to analyze our own thinking is critical, essential, for our future decisions to be good ones that benefit us rather than betraying us and our future.

Logic seeks to verify or deny what our instinct advises. And the instinct can advise our logic and together, they might arrive at a good place that will be a benefit and not doom.

Plato did not fail his Republic. His republic rejected good sound logic in exchange for money, power, and influence, which usually come from repressed needs of the early past of each person.

Me thinks you could use some more pondering on logic.

As Wittgenstein said, “Proof in logic is merely a mechanical expedient for facilitating the recognition of tautologies in complicated cases.” (Tractatus 6.1262)

Logic can be used to lead us to very problematic outcomes. Plato used plenty of logic in his Republic. And what kind of ideal society did he dream of? One in which children are to be separated from their parents at birth, weak children are to be disposed of, the ideal ruler should have no emotional ties with his parents or siblings (or even know them), etc. Perhaps not surprisingly, Plato’s attempt to bring his Republic into reality turned out to be a flop.

I have kids in the US school system. I put them in private school after a year in a well funded public school. Same issues remain. They are habitually taught in a way their reason doesn’t make any sense. They lack some very basic reasoning skills that I took for granted when I was going to school. Teaching them geometry is very hard, because they can’t string together a simple logical argument.

At this point I’m seriously considering moving to Russia and sending them to school there. I do talk to my relatives’ and friend’s kids in ex SU, and they don’t lack the basic reasoning ability that most kids in the US lack. The only thing I can think of is general school curriculum that causes it. They really can’t understand cause and effect and when they say the word because and follow it with some nonsense it scares me. I’m pretty sure my kids still can be salvaged with proper school education. I’m not an education specialist, but there is something very basic that’s lacking from the US school system that makes people lack any reason. What that basic thing is I can’t tell.

It seems the logic is twisted where supporting of killing others is ok as long as it’s for security. It’s never been for Americans’ loss of freedom because they gladly give them to the gov’t that has been stripping them away since 9/11…

With that said, a small number of people dying shouldn’t really be shocking. One of our bombs drop kill more than that. Obama dropped 100k bombs, Trump already dropped about 2+ k bombs…

With these school shootings, they are conditioning children to be accustomed to seeing armed guards where ever they go and the worst is how people are demanding them to be put there.